<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Jopseph,</div><div>May I explain a little bit the objectives of the querry.</div><div>The terms and condition and status of accountabilty currently applied to Protocole and numbers are not clear.</div><div>The presentation of these accountability are too complex and it is not clear who is accountable to whom</div><div>I raised this question to Jari , representing Protocol and he agreed to provide diagram clearly indicating the hierarchy of the implementation and application of the accountavblity as curremntly practiced.</div><div>The same is valid for numbers</div><div>Then in regard with the accountabilty after transition sebveral paragraphs spread over various pages deal with7 addressing the post transition accountabilty.</div><div>For me as an ICG member .it is not clear what are the consequence of transition in regard with accoutabilty before and after transition .</div><div>For thse reasons I asked for a comparative tabulated form indicating the accountabilty at various level and the corresponding hierarchy before and after transition.</div><div>Should you have a better way to have such a tabular form which I referred to it as comparative and you seems not to be happy with such term ,please guide me.</div><div>But currently the suituation is tiotally vague</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-08 16:29 GMT+01:00 joseph alhadeff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com" target="_blank">joseph.alhadeff@oracle.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Colleagues<br>
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Perhaps we should develop a set of questions for all communities to
answer. I'm not sure that its appropriate to ask communities to
develop comparative documents.<br>
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Best-<br>
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Joe<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>Step 2 ,ICG Assessement of Cummunity proposals</div>
<div>Dear Vice chair, </div>
<div>May you please ask TWO OPERATIONAL COMMUNITIES a)
ProtoCOL & Parameters and b) Nummbers to
Kindly provide the followings;</div>
<div>A COMPARATIVE Table indicating the prcess of
accountability currently in force and implemented and those
which will be required after Transitiion.</div>
<div>It would be useful to have that comparative Table
enabling ICG Members to better undersatnd how the
accountability of Protocol Parameter and Numbers are
affected by Transition.</div>
<div>The reports of these two communities are difficult to
make such a comparision.</div>
<div>Without that I will have serious difficulties to comment
on the exacteness and appropriateness of the content of
these two comminities on accountability before and after
transition.</div>
<div>By the way, Jari promised to provide a graphic Diagram
regarding internal accountability being carried out by IETF</div>
<div>mOREOVER, aLAN bARRET / Paul Wilson ,are respectfully
requested to provide similar graphic Diagram about the
accountability currently in force in RIRs ,in particular
that RIRs have a more decentralized process of five regional
communities and the overall accountabilities of the entire
Rir s are not clear</div>
<div>Rergards </div>
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<div>Dear Patrik</div>
<div>Thank you for reply</div>
<div>The question addressed to two operational communities
represented by Jari and Paul or Alan . If my request was
not properly formulated I hereby correct that in raising
these questions and seeking clarifications from protocol
and numbers operational communities AND NOT to ANY ICG
MEMBER </div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div>Kavouss</div>
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On 8 Mar 2015, at 09:47, Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>>
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<div>This I treat as a request from an ICG member
for further explanation by other ICG members.</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> 8 mars 2015 08:30:25 CET<br>
<b>To:</b> Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>>,
Mohamed El Bashir <<a href="mailto:mbashir@mbash.net" target="_blank">mbashir@mbash.net</a>>,
Alissa Cooper <<a href="mailto:alissa@cooperw.in" target="_blank">alissa@cooperw.in</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>Information requested</b><br>
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<div>Step 2 ,ICG Assessement of
Cummunity proposals</div>
<div>Dear Vice chair, </div>
<div>May you please ask Jari and Alan
Barret or Paul Wilson to provide the
foloowings;</div>
<div>A COMPARATIVE Table indicating
the prcess of accountability
currently in force and implemented
and those which will be required
after Transitiion.</div>
<div>It would be useful to have that
comparative Table enabling ICG
Members to better undersatnd how the
accountability of Protocol Parameter
and Numbers are affected by
Transition.</div>
<div>The reports of these two
communities are difficult to make
such a comparision.</div>
<div>Without that I will have serious
difficulties to comment on the
exacteness and appropriateness of
the content of these two comminities
on accountability before and after
transition.</div>
<div>By the way, Jari promised to
provide a graphic Diagram regarding
internal accountability being
carried out by IETF</div>
<div>mOREOVER, aLAN bARRET / Paul
Wilson ,are respectfully requested
to provide similar graphic Diagram
about the accountability currently
in force in RIRs ,in particular
that RIRs have a more decentralized
process of five regional communities
and the overall accountabilities of
the entire Rir s are not clear</div>
<div>Rergards </div>
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