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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">OK, thanks.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In the future, I would suggest that we not classify “let’s continue discussion of <something> on the list as an “action item.”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">;-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b> Jennifer Chung [mailto:jen@icgsec.asia]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 12:13 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Milton L Mueller; internal-cg@ianacg.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> ICG Call#13 Action item 3 [was RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Milton,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Call 13, Action Item 3 stems from the discussion from pg 2-3 of the 11 Mar minutes v3, attached and reproduced below in full:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Arasteh reiterated his request to clarify the jurisdiction issue regarding the current IETF-ICANN MoU. He further requested clarification on the management of the coordination of the three operational communities
as referenced in the protocol parameters proposal (<a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ianaplan-icg-response-09">pg 13, section IV</a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Regarding Arasteh’s first point, Arkko stated that it was his recollection that the jurisdiction issue was resolved during the face-to-face meeting, and that it was clarified by Arkko and Housley that IAB is the
final arbiter for any issues between ICANN and IETF. Arkko stated that the ICG agreed (and have sent) a question to the operational communities relating to the IPR (domain names and trademarks of iana.org).<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Regarding Arasteh’s second point, Arkko stated that coordination between the three communities in the IETF process is described in various RFCs and has been a point-to-point coordination between the communities that
has occurred many times without issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Arasteh requested that Arkko put the above explanation in writing for clarification and discussion. Arasteh further emphasized that the jurisdiction issue is a legal issue that should be properly addressed, and
the current answer of ‘IAB’ is insufficient in his view.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Arkko stated that the IETF community has produced a proposal that explains the IETF process, including accountability mechanisms, and that the community’s opinion is clearly reflected in the document. Arkko offered
to provide further information in an email to the internal-cg mailing list regarding practicalities of coordination between the operational communities (referred to in the protocol parameters proposal), but emphasized that he cannot change the protocol parameters’
proposal itself.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><span style="font-style:italic">Adobe Connect chat:</span></i> Mundy and Housley agreed with Arkko regarding his view that the ICG members cannot change the community proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>El Bashir suggested that the ICG continue discussion of this matter on the internal-cg mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">Action Item 3:
<font color="black"><span style="color:black">The ICG to continue discussing on the internal cg-mailing list about: 1) jurisdiction issue of the current ICANN-IETF MoU; 2) the practicalities of coordination between the operational communities (referred to in
the protocol parameters proposal and referenced RFCs).</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please let me know if you have questions or need further clarifications re the above.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b> Milton L Mueller [<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mailto:mueller@syr.edu</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 11:45 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jennifer Chung; <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">
internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">This summary is good, I wrote my last message before I had seen this attachment with the summary of arguments.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">However, while this is excellent summary fulfills action item 2 from ICG call #12, I still am not sure what the action item #3 from call #13 is.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">--MM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b> Internal-cg [<a href="mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org">mailto:internal-cg-bounces@ianacg.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jennifer Chung<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 8, 2015 1:33 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:internal-cg@ianacg.org">
internal-cg@ianacg.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Internal-cg] Summary of internally resolved questions re the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As requested by Jean-Jacques on the recently concluded call regarding this action item:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ICG Call #12, Action Item 2: ICG to discuss and call for volunteer/pen holder on the internal-cg mailing list to consolidate information collected during the assessment process
of the operational communities' proposals in an ICG report that can be published together with the final proposal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find attached the chart consolidating questions and answers discussed during the assessment process for the Numbers and Protocol Parameters proposals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dropbox link:
<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/wad3entgv3dqr3m/Summary%20of%20internally%20resolved%20questions-v2.xlsx?dl=0">
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wad3entgv3dqr3m/Summary%20of%20internally%20resolved%20questions-v2.xlsx?dl=0</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Jennifer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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